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E128 || Kevin and Stewart || Daily Dad, Reflecting on Life's Little Miracles, and Other Miscellany

March 27, 2023 Stewart Shurtleff & Kevin Carey Season 4 Episode 12
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E128 || Kevin and Stewart || Daily Dad, Reflecting on Life's Little Miracles, and Other Miscellany
Show Notes Transcript

This week Kevin and Stewart discuss personal growth, faith, and gratitude. 

They reflect on childhood memories, building habits, and being intentional with our actions. They emphasize the importance of recognizing life's challenges and finding miracles in the everyday. They also discuss the role of faith in overcoming struggles and the importance of acting on promptings.

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Hey, I'm employed. Uh I have a family, a roof over my head. I'm eating food. You know, like these basic necessities that we take for granted are oftentimes, miracles that I don't know what the percentages are, but there's a good percentage of people that don't have those luxuries in life. 

Every single individual has a story to tell and there are great stories that need to be heard. I want every listener to know they have the ability to change the world. Welcome to the 1720 podcast. What's up M. movers? Welcome back to the 1720 podcast, sty. It's, it's book season, man. 

We have future giveaways. We have numerous previous giveaways that people are collecting books. It's awesome to see all that interaction on our social media and people getting pumped to read and learn more and uh get involved. Uh It has been giveaway season. 

I think I'm guilty of accidentally holding uh three of Jake's journals for too long. So if they just rolled into your inbox or to your office or sorry, I sat on those for too long. Sorry, Jake. Um But I saw one with Kyle, uh a post that Kyle got his, did you take that picture or did he take it? He took it? Ok. Yeah, I saw it. 

I, I, it looked as if maybe you had swung by and y'all just took it, but I saw the picture from Kyle, um, and hit him up apologizing and he said, I guess it's better late than never. Something like that. Did he really? Nah, I'm just kidding. He did. It was very, it was very kind about me apologizing for being late. But um, yeah, so those are out there and I saw a couple of other postings. So it is definitely giveaway season and I always think that's super fun. 

Oh, Man, it's awesome. Craig Rochelle's book. They, he just came off like a five week series on it. And dude, I've probably written 20 daily motivations on it and updated presentation, slide decks of my own. And it's so powerful. 

It's the, I think the first one we've given that's unsigned, but still people want it. People want to see it. People want to read it. Who are the other two that won when you're next? I don't remember. Oh, man. Um I think Damien was one. 

Yeah, Damien was one and uh, and I wrote him on stickies and then, uh I gave them to Rebecca to send out for us and I can't remember who the other one was. I guess we'll see. It's gonna be a surprise if you, if you win one. Send us a picture. We love celebrating y'all. We love seeing people celebrate y'all like uh I love seeing that when somebody sends us that picture, we post it and how many people like and comment on it. It's awesome. It's part of our community. Yeah, it is. And, and then I've, I have personally and I'm sure other people have to like pass them around. So I had one and gave it to somebody else to read. So the books seem to have a little traveling, uh, a niche for traveling too. Do you ever do geo cashing? Are you familiar with that? 

This, this is gonna make a point in a second, of course, even though, even though it's technology related. So, no, I haven't. It's like a technology related treasure hunt if you will. The point of that is, um, the, sometimes in the geo caches there'll be like a travel bug and you can see like, well, this one's been from here to Montana to Spokane, to Arkansas, you know, like, and you can see where that, that particular one has been based on how people travel and pick it up and log it. I was just thinking about logging, like where the books have gone and stuff like this. But I don't geo cashing made me like a stop down. I don't know. It's a total random. 

We're one minute in and I've hit the ditch already. But any event. Yeah, book season. We don't even have the booklet. That's something that we've talked about a lot. So geo Cash, like next level, we've had a few listeners. Doug Heinz Men. He's like, dude, I'm gonna put this together for you as a present someday. And I'm like, good because we won't. 

The book list of people that have shouted out books and things have been recommended list, man, I started it right. I mean, like it's been months back where I was like, I should catalog this and do it. And I, I actually started it and I probably got 30 books in and it just became because it's such a long and great it just paying too much to keep up with. I couldn't manage keeping up with all the books that we've talked about reference, referred to, quoted from, you know, I couldn't keep up with it and I, and I kind of gave up, but, um, I wish we could, I mean, somebody should do that, you should do that, you know, because it would be a great list. It is, it would be like the epitome of a leadership library, uh to, to look back through all that Stuff. So we got these fancy 1720 bands for anybody that steps up and does it. 

Yeah, I got plenty of them. I still have uh quite a few. So I'm actually running low, man. 

We're gonna have to reorder because I, I've been handing them out like candy at youth ministry. But we, next time we catch up, we're virtual today. Next time I catch up, I'll bring you a portion of my re remaining amount. 

I have a small box left because whenever I would write thank you notes, I would put two in and send them out. So I've, I'm dwindled down, but I probably still have more than you do in, in addition to the books. It's been cool to see interaction when somebody doesn't know a guest and they're meeting and in one day our phone started pinging like within a two hour period, like three or four times separate people talking about like, hey, I'm going to meet with so and so in 20 minutes or the next day, I love the community that's being built when we're not even involved. 

This, the, the, the podcast is just like central command for that. And, and it's the nucleus that allows people to go interact with each other as part of the tribe. And that was really the vision that neither of us really are in it for the spotlight. 

We want it to become much bigger than us and those are signs that it is becoming bigger than us and it's cool to see for sure, for sure. Um Did you, I got from last week's, you know, just us talking. I got more probably pings and feedback uh than I usually do uh about the episode and things we talked about and stories and shout outs and stuff like that. Um How was your, how was your week of feedback? I think you got some good feedback too. 

One of the most ever in one week. I it must be the season of undercurrent or people hadn't been thinking about it and uh what we talked about undercurrents and what they do to a culture and a business when that negativity spins underneath the layer of positivity and what you stand for words on the wall. And it was all mirror comments. Every single person was looking in the mirror and they're like, I'm part of the undercurrent, I'm causing this. 

This is a wake up call. Thanks for the wake up call. I need to get better. 

There was a lot of feedback with that which awesome. That's why we were talking about it because you and I have been a part of the undercurrent and we, we're doing our best not to be right? Like it's not done with any of this stuff. 

That's why we keep talking about things like this. Yeah, there's been a lot not work related, but I would say just like in some of my groups of folks, a lot of like take the log out of your own own. I talk lately and that, that kind of speaks to that too. I didn't know that was your, your feedback on that issue. But yeah, it and maybe we talked about it last week. I can't remember. But if, if you think, like, self reflect on that, if you think you're part of it, you know, take a beat and think about if, what are you doing to, to contribute to it or make it worse and you know, what can you do to fix it? Because not every, everything is not in your control, but what you're doing is in your control and what you're saying is in your control. 

So, you know, take control of that. That's a, those are, that is good feedback. I didn't, I didn't think about that. Yeah, you can either speed up the undercurrent or slow it down, right? 

You can do one of the two for sure, for sure. Um If we, I think we have, but if we given the uh the Daily Dad and um all of those um you know, emails and podcasts and stuff like that from Ryan holiday, I shout out here before I think we have, right. Yeah, we have, we, I think there was one, it's gonna be very similar to today where one section of the episode was from an email. Yeah. But every once in a while in our text groups, you'll just see today's Daily Dad ellipsis like because somebody just got upper cut in the chin by the message and uh I think that happened to you this week. Oh man, he, so first of all, if you're not signed up for it for it. Um And you're a dad. You should go check it out. 

It's called the Daily dad dot com. It's by Ron all day. He does, um, a couple of different things. Owns a little bookshop down in central Texas outside of Austin. 

I can't remember exactly where it is. Uh, it's very well written on a variety of topics but he wrote the obstacles away and, and most of his, uh, musings these days, uh, are around the stoics and stoicism and things like this. But, um, the Daily Dad is once a week, like a uppercut. And, um, this, this week's the one I think that I texted you about was the gist of like, you know, this might be the last time or, or something to this effect. Was that the one? Yeah, the last time? Yeah. And so it's, um, just an email talking about how, you know, you, there's a, there at some point and, um, well, let me see if I can pull it up here. It just says, um, at, at some point in your childhood, you and your friends went outside to play together for the last time and nobody even knew it. 

Yeah, it's a sound light deal. He actually says the quote is not actually in the movie, but somehow people have attributed it to that. But, um, in any event, like it just talks through like, it's hard to imagine. But like if you have kids or no matter what stage you're in, you know, every moment could be the last moment that, you know, and he, I'm looking at it now. It's like it might be the last time they play hide and seek. 

Uh, the last time you go to a concert together, the last time you watch them hit a home run the last time you, you know, stuff, uh, diapers into the garbage. You have an argument over a curfew. The last screaming tantrum tantrum. 

I've heard it said sometimes that it was in a, a conversation with Ashley or maybe Ashley was talking about it with another mom or something. But there'll be a last time when your son crawls up in your lap and just golly man, whatever reason it was this week was just like whatever the most dangerous punch is right to the neck or whatever, you know, it's like, oh my gosh, the, the idea that sometimes I want to scurry through things and get to the next thing and don't live, like, don't be where your feet are. We say that a lot. 

Sometimes I am not consistently being where my feet are. I should say, uh, I just like that moment of you might miss the last time because you're not paying attention, uh, resonated with me. And I think it's to me maybe just seasonal because William is older and he's about to start driving in, in a few short months. And, you know, I can feel him, I can feel like the him growing up. 

I know that sounds a little hokey but, you know, he's much more likely to, you know, kind of do his own thing and, and he doesn't need our help much anymore and we don't have to pressure him to get his homework. You know, it's just like he's self-sufficient. I can feel him growing up and, um, even this week and this, this might have been what it was. I can't remember if it was before or after, but we had the basketball banquet this week, uh, for the end of the season and they celebrate the kids and stuff like this and, and there's a lot of parents in that room who have seniors that are graduating and that's the last time their kids will have their name called for the basketball banquet and all that. And it, it was, I, I just had like the foreshadowing moment that one day I'll be sitting in that room and it will be our last time and I don't want to miss it and I don't wanna forget it and I don't want to be prepared for it and all this. And so anyway, the daily dad again to come back to it is is, it's really good and every once in a while it's extraordinarily good. So if you're, if you're not on that, uh, go check it out, I actually even, you know, he does. 

Um, I'm sorry, I jump back in with more. I, I gave you like the verbal intonation that I was done talking and then started talking again one word. Shut up, Kevin. And, um, those tokens, have you ever seen how they sell those tokens? 

Uh, on some of his, uh, it's like, um, they're like little, uh, maybe the size of silver dollars and they all have like a little saying on them. Um, and there's, it's usually some sort of like Greek saying and, and really the gist of it is like you, you buy the token as he's called it. Um, and the idea is like you just keep in your pocket so that you always remember like when you grab your keys, you feel or whatever. And so the one for that week or that one was, uh, this little token that says, uh, I, I don't know how to say it in Greek but it's, it, the, it, it, it's time flies. Um It's just like the little token you keeping a and I never thought that those had any value. 

I never thought, oh, I should this week, I was like, man, I should buy one of those and just keep it in my pocket to remind myself time flies and be where your feet are and don't miss what very well could be the last of whatever that was. So, anyway, that's it. Now, I'll give you like an actual verbal cue. 

I'm done talking about that. You talk now, it'd be awesome if you just start talking over me again though. Wait, wait, wait, I, one more thing, one more thing. Yeah. I, if, if self reflection and catching yourself in a moment isn't a good cue for you. Like some, for some people it's not their strength. 

Something like a token does work. And this, I, what I have to do constantly. Like I, I am where my feet are in this season but sometimes that's me being lazy like I am at home. I am on the couch. 

I know Quinn's upstairs and playing. I just don't want to go up there and it's like I mentally wrestle like get your butt upstairs or go see what she's doing. And, and so it's not only being where your feet are but like being intentional where your feet are as well. And it reminds me of atomic habits, like building those habits and habits stacking like when something drops on the floor, pick it up. 

Like, and there's times and decisions like a little piece of like paper towel or something. And I look down at it and it's like every single time my, my brain has a tug of war, it's like pick it up and put it in the trash can. That's an investment into your, your future. 

Unless if it's food, I don't have to pick up food in the dogs swarm like like uh coys in a coy pod man. Like it's instant which is so, like, so much so that when I went back to my parents' house for Christmas or whatever, late last year, I dropped food in their, in their kitchen and I just stared at it like, I swear to God. And I'm like, and I did it for like, 5 to 10 seconds. I'm like, wait, nobody's no dog is here to pick this up. 

They don't have any pets. I'm like, I have to pick this up and it was so crazy to see how you're programmed in your daily walking habits. That food for me, it's like that's a treat. You're welcome. Yeah. But, but when you pointed me to this email, I read it that morning and I started thinking about those things that show up on time hop, that app that shows this day three years ago, four years ago, et cetera. And some of the things that when they did end, I was really bummed about them at like the last time Quinn did something and one of them was the rodeo hand. 

Like, I mean, the first year and a half of her life, we call it the rodeo hand. But there was one hand up like this constantly and she could be eating with one hand and the other one's just up, we take a picture and it's rodeo hands like the rodeo hands stayed up like she has to have boulder shoulders, bro. Because like it's constantly elevated and I love that and it's always cool to look back at those pictures. The other one was uh upstairs was up and I loved it and I would say because I could see her maturing a little bit and then, and I was like, no, let's hold on to, you know, and then she just dropped upstairs out of nowhere and I knew in that moment that's it up is over. What a bummer. Um And then dancing to cartoons, uh, trolls and Shrek where her two jams were because it has a lot of songs in those and she would just get up and bust a move. And so those were the looking back ones. Looking forward. There's gonna be a last time she wants to play in her playroom and I hate the playroom, dude. I hate it. It's, it's so brutal disaster. 

Well, it's, yeah, it's a mess. It's Barbies, it's reenacting things. It's just, you know, but she loves it driving her somewhere, you know, you're in that season right now. But I, I'm looking way forward with my daughter being almost six. Is there's gonna be a last time I drop her off at a friend's house and then there's gonna be a last day she lives with us, you know, like looking forward, those are sobering. 

So, like looking back, remembering what things, what things did I cherish to help, help me be more where my feet are and, and, and lean in intentionally and then looking forward knowing those are coming and that's not one and done. Dude. We need these reminders constantly like everything else in life and that's why something like the daily Dad is important. It's a, it was a really good email for me to sign up because I'm such a leadership nerd and I'm business first in a lot of my thoughts when it comes to leadership, this one's all about being a parent, you know, and I need that mixture in my life. Yeah. So it's a good one. Learning to appreciate your moments, learning to again be where your feet are. 

I stole, I stole it from Jesse. Is that a Jesse Hitler thing? I feel like I heard it the first time at the Jesse Itzler Y C C meeting a long, long, long time ago. I feel like I heard it the first time there. Maybe I know David Esky. 

He said water to the grass beneath your feet. I remember him saying that live. That was a good moment. I was like, oh, I don't think I've heard that. Um Yeah, if you, if, if this is nothing other than a public service announcement for remembering to water the grass under your own feet. Uh It's a, it's a great success for the last 10 minutes of chatting about it because you kind of all need those reminders and the days are passing, the, the the days are slow, but the years are fast. And they're all gonna go past very quickly, both at, I mean, that's a lingering conversation about what it's like at home with your kids. But it's the, it's the same stuff with work and your wife and your parents and all that sort of stuff. And so we haven't actually had the conversation there but I know that, uh, teed up in our, uh, Mount moves, peer group is the, the idea of our parents and um handling those situations as they age, not that anybody's parents are in like a bad, like we're in that season of life where, you know, my mom turned 4 72 a week ago. 

I mean, it's, it's, we're in all and in increasingly uh changing phases of life. And so thinking about all that across all the different areas of your life important too. Not just with your kids. So this, this concludes the public service announcement regarding being where your feet are. Yeah. Hey, holiday, you owe us a couple of bucks. All right. Just send us one of those medallions. That'd be fine. Actually, we should and give them away. How about that? I'll, I'll, I'll buy two and give them away. How about that? Give away? Give away. Um All right, we got a couple of other things on the, on the sort of ad hoc prep sheet. Uh I might, if I can audible, just go straight to the third option because I don't know what you wanted to say around this idea uh of miracles and, and what are we missing while we're waiting for a big home run. But that's how you typed it onto the prep sheet. So hit me with something because I have no idea where we're going here. Sure. It was a message from church last week. 

They just started a new series and um talking about like the, when we're praying or thinking about like the big miracles in life, those home runs that we're trying to hit of like getting the big job or landing the girlfriend or boyfriend, like the kid getting into college and we get hyper focused on those big moments and I guess it's gonna tie into the uh the previous point on our prep sheet. But um it, it, we, we hold so much into that miracle that we're praying for that, we, we start putting our identity towards it like if I'm running towards this direction and this miracle and the miracle doesn't go the way we shaped it in our heads, our identity starts changing and then we start thinking like, well, is God real, you know, it, you know, is, is, is, does he not love me? And we've wrapped too much into that miracle. But there are some things where you can look back and reflect. I'm a big reflection guy and like miracles are all around us. Um And, and so I wanna, I wanna highlight something. It was actually Ryan Davis, it was a reply to the daily motivation that I, because I talked about miracles and one of the daily motivations from this week and he, he highlighted a Tony Robbins um a priming technique to try and help better see the little miracles all around you. So there's three categories, the first of which was something easy and obvious. And so, hey, I'm employed. Uh I have a family, a roof over my head. I'm eating food. You know, like these basic necessities that we take for granted are oftentimes, miracles that I don't know what the percentages are, but there's a good percentage of people that don't have those luxuries in life and we just blast right past them. 

Don't consider them the miracles of life because we're striving for whatever that big big home run is. Um And then something hard. This was the one that got punched me. The baby crying, nonstop is healthy lungs, uh kids pushing boundaries, they're growing into strong adults. So like what is something hard in your life? 

That's actually a miracle that's happening. Like if you have strife in your marriage, you have the miracle of marriage, like it's worth putting in the effort and it takes work like what is your heart when it comes to miracles? And then something you had zero control. This is the third one, something you had zero control over, but it changed the trajectory of your life. So like you got fired from your job. And in the moment you're like, this is a cat catastrophe. Why me, God. And again, God's the master architect stirring this thing that you didn't even see coming that puts you in like the best season of your life. And sometimes it doesn't work out. 

That might not be your story. You know, for me, it's taking my dog out to, to go to the bathroom in a little grass patch in our apartment when I was well in my apartment. And that's where I met my wife in the same grass patch because she took her dog and out at the same time and I look at my watch, I'm like 5 35. I will always be in this grass patch now at 5 35. So like the miracle of having a dog and taking him out at that moment, built my family. Like so how many of those like fluke introductions me, meeting your wife? Um uh Ryan Davis shared missing a bad accident because you couldn't find your keys. 

So, and like those are frustrating in the moment, but they're life changing life saving. Potentially there was a um so last week, uh the shirt lifts took a, I'll tell you why and long some of the long story, but we went on our spring break trip to New York City and had the opportunity to while we were there. We did a bunch of cool touristy things. It was the first thing the kids ever been to the city. But one of the things we did that I had never done was go to the 9 11 memorial. Have you, have you been Kev? Oh, yeah. So, this was the first time I had been to the city and had margin to go. And it was, and it was awesome. And a weird, like, awesome is not the right word because that sort of connotes fun. But um, it was, it was great and it, it walks through some of the, all it walks through all of it. 

The point I'm trying to make is that, um, that was a enormous tragedy. But what happened that morning in midtown, Manhattan was an, an enormous traffic accident and a huge pile up and because of that people couldn't get downtown down to the Twin Towers and there were probably thousands of people stuck in traffic that morning who otherwise would have been sitting at their desks at 8 35. And, um, it just, I know that's a weird, like criss cross story, but I mean, that's it. Right. Like that is the accident and that's the, you lost your keys and you missed being in that accident. It was for those people that the traffic accident was a, a miracle in their life that kept them from being there. 

Um, and I think I've heard stories of people like, appreciate. It's not like that goes under unappreciated, but it's just like the largest version Of the something you had zero control over, but changed the trajectory of your life, sort of .3 component. Uh fresh on my mind from, from being there last week. So, and some of this isn't easy either, right? Like to that point it's very complex and we don't understand. And that's where faith kicks in and our walks is. Yeah, those people. But what about all the ones that did make it to work and were in that building when it collapsed and died? 

I don't have that answer, man. Only 11 person knows that answer. And I don't think he's picking and choosing like a like it because of their character or anything like that. 

It's just, it's part of this master plan that won't be revealed to us until potentially in the kingdom. Sometimes some of these miracles are revealed to us in the moment. Um But man, it life is complicated like, you know, I prayed for so and so to be healed from their cancer and they died like, so what am I doing here and again? And it's much easier said than done. 

You're, you're wrapping up those thoughts and your faith in a moment and you're, you're wrapping your identity in that moment. And that's, that's not really the full picture as difficult as it is in some of those deepest valleys that we go through. Yeah. That's a good like over the top art too because it's that idea, that paradigm, that problem that, that theological rustle exists there and also exists on the super easy stuff. Right? To take it back to the beginning because you want the stuff you want to take for granted is like, well, of course, I have a, of course, I get it. 

Of course, I ate breakfast this morning. Right. Well, no, it's in order for that to happen. It was a long series of events, all of which were very, to make something that felt very easy to you. It all came together, not at your doing and not at your behest so that you could have your Cheerios. 

And, um, I, I, there's, there's been AAA few funny nicknames I've gotten at Osburn over the last nine months. Um, but one of them has been and this, I don't know if I've told you this or not, but it'll be hilarious. Um, it's something that's effective. 

I'm the happiest person here. And it's because every morning I say, how are you doing? And I will say this is the best day of my life and they're like, oh, come on. And I will say that I'll be like, I woke up, I had gas in my car. I got to the office. 

It's the temperature, like, just start rattling off all of the, like, super basic stuff we take for granted and it started to be pervasive. Right. Like, every once in a while I'll say, how are you doing? And they're like, this is the best day of my life. 

I had Cheerios this morning. I'm like, yeah, how about that? So, um, I have, it's interesting that that came up because I've really leaned into focusing on. 

Number one, number two is harder. Number three, I don't think about much. Like the hard stuff is obviously that's harder to think. But um I think Ashley sometimes has a, a good focus on the miracles of number two, right? 

Especially kids pushing brownies. What that means is they're growing into strong adults is like, you know, how, how our interactions change, modify, adapt their personalities and stuff is like we don't need to lean in hard on that because that, that feels like rebellion. But what that is is a world changer. 

Yeah, like folk, you know, that sort of thing. So anyway, um yeah, that's a good one. I didn't know where we were going with that, but that is good. That's a church that was from uh sermon notes you said? Yeah, it's from life church. Um I forget it wasn't Craig Groll this week. It was, I, I don't remember the dude's name but he was talking about, I mean, he's a, he's Craig's right-hand man. So high up in the the church org chart, so to speak. And his son got in a really bad accident, broken back, broken vertebrae wasn't sure if he'd walk and you know, like he struggled with himself. 

Like, why God, why I'm serving you daily, bro. Like, what, what's the deal? And one of the, and Squirrel, one of the encouragements he's like, talk to God. 

Like, don't do the reps, talk to him. Tell him you're frustrated. Like, share, share where you're at. 

And, uh, he's, it is actually a really cool story. So it's, I guess worth a couple more minutes. The, the lady in the lunch room, what uh that they got to know in the hospital. He uh or she asked, hey, do you mind if I uh come pray for your son in his room? And uh like uh yeah, of course, come on in. And so they, they, she spoke over him and his wife for a while. Then the son came in and she laid hands, put oil on, like did the full deal and it was that moment where like their faith was reactivated. And so like something prompted her, right? Like something God prompted her like I need you to go pray for that kid, you know, and, and she, she's super faithful and obedient. She's like done. I'm going. And so she goes and seeks them out and she doesn't know what's happening yet, but she walks out in faith and creates a miracle right in that moment and there's healing after that, he rebounded quickly after that. Um And I'm sure all that together. There's a little story there too, right? Because how many times do you feel like, man, I, I, it's the, it's like the hand of the Holy Spirit or God speaking directly to me or however you wanna phrase it like I should go do or say X and you're like, no, I talk for that. 

I don't, I got, I'm trying to get somewhere right now, man. I don't, I don't want to have to have that in, ah, to be awkward. I don't wanna, you know, and you just like, push that off and don't like, actually circle around the block and be like, hey, man, are you like, actually hungry? Because I'll, I'll walk with you over to 7-Eleven and buy you a honeymoon. Like if that's what, but if you know, and try to have the, you know, like you, you don't though, you're just like, oh, I'm trying to get to a meeting, you know, I do. 

I'm sorry, I'm thinking of a very funny story. All right, I take us there, I land on a funny story. I feel like we lingered in. We got serious. I'm just going to the, uh, there was curveball that go, there was a homeless person at the intersection. 

I was with this girl at the time and uh, she's a big faith lady, you know, super sweet, all that stuff. And, uh, he asked, he was asking for money and, and he's like, she's like, well, you know, if you're hungry, I have something for you to eat and she handed him an apple and he looks at this apple and looks at her and football spikes this apple on the ground man, like touchdown style uh and just broke her heart and I'm like dying laughing. Yeah, like it's not and, and like the lesson in that is when you, when you listen to that word, you've done your part, what they do with it is not up to you. 

It's not, you're not responsible for their outcome or, and if you think you are, you think you have a little too much control. So if you're prompted to give this person a dollar or a warm meal, just go do it. Don't worry, don't be tied to the outcome, just be obedient in the moment. There's a bigger reason why, you know, the miracles that we're talking about, if they go buy drugs with it, that's not on you like it. If you're prompted to do that and give money or whatever the case may be, just act, I had an interest, I'll give a shout out here to the bishop. Um I had a conversation with him. 

I think it was, I think it was on Monday of this week. It doesn't matter. And we were, we were talking about something and I was, I was explaining to him how sometimes I feel like I'm so outcome oriented that I allow outcome oriented, that outcome oriented mind space to affect my obedience is exactly what you're talking about. But then I, I took that like little weird jaunt a step further and said, and then sometimes I let it affect my obedience to the extent like I will try to manufacture and I won't like say or do the what's exactly the, the, like the thing I feel like I need to be doing because if I, if I can say it's slightly different, then I can manufacture a slightly different outcome, right? And try to manipulate that. And that's what said he was just like, dude, you're responsible for being faithful in the moment, not the outcome. And uh it's, it, I, I know that but being like professionally outcome oriented, you know, and playing, you know what I said yesterday to someone who was like playing four D chess, I'm, I'm evaluating how the moves affect the outcome in the, it's a different paradigm when you're talking about faithfulness but different, you shouldn't tie to the outcome in a professional setting as well. It's, I'm gonna do my best stand for the right things and it's not that the outcome is relevant, but you've done everything you can, right? 

When you look backwards at that have more times than not when we look backwards. We actually haven't done everything we can. And that's, there's the solution, right? And it's not, you know, outcome oriented idea there not being like, I'm changing like the things and the values and the morals and the propositions that, you know, lots of times like, is it a, is it a pawn or a rook? 

It's just a mere strategy decision. It's not a, am I inside or outside of the wall? The words that are written on the wall. It's like, well, if I moved upon here, how does that affect the, the move of the bishop? And can I actually get it with the rook later if the night moves, you know, all that stuff? And then I transmute that pure strategy into anyway, that's a long sort of transmutation of the, the, the point we start out on which was a acknowledging like the miracles of every day. But um as we have a tendency to do, we ramble well and help others see it too, right? Like there's moments where I'm preaching it and then I need it the next week and, and that's, and that's the whole point you're not being high and mighty, you're helping people out because the same things you help people out with, you need help with in different seasons of life. 

That's how life goes. It's good to put that stuff out in the atmosphere. And I've seen like the identity piece, man, I, I've been, I've been fortunate enough to speak to a lot of different groups. Um Some of which have been, you know, like on the poverty line, some have been, you know, very affluent corporate youth, youth in several different capacities and uh, I was tipped off on, on one in particular that, um, you know, like that, half the, half the group that I was speaking to live in poverty. And so I went heavy into that, that identity, like you're not, your identity is not wrapped in your surroundings, your upbringing, uh, your, your failures, like it's, it's about the habits you're building now and, and the purpose you stand for that's bigger than today, bigger than you and, and, and what is that? What are you striving for and, and whatever you're striving for? Is it backed by your actions and your words? And uh I think all of us in all phases of life need that man. Like to the miracles piece when you get knocked down hard, your, your identity gets shaken a little bit too. Who am I like? What do I stand for? Um Like if you got again using, if you got fired from your job all of a sudden, like you'd start maybe wrapping yourself around like I'm a loser. 

I'm, I, I'm not enough. No, you just, it wasn't a fit there. It's maybe opening it up for your, the best season of your freaking life. 

You just have to build those habits and, and mindset, especially in those tough moments to get through it, get past it and get stronger on the other end, you could go back. Um And it was probably in the 1st 15 episodes of this podcast and I was talking about, this is me being like, uh, somehow logging everything in my brain that we've talked about. Uh, I was talking about at the time how we used to at the time, we were rather writing words on like, uh with the expo marker on the mirror in the, in the kids' bathroom. You remember that? And the one that we talked about on that episode at the time was how I, I think Ashley had written it up there and said, um basketball is what you do. 

It's not who you are. And that's the same. It's like your job. 

That's what you do. That's what you were doing. That's not who you are. The what? It's not who you are. Um And so that's, you know, among the many monikers or, or little taglines that we see on the Shirt Lift House, that's one of them, you know, for sure. You're, you're a, you're a child of God first and you play, you, do you happen to play basketball? So I've been trying to hammer that like on youth ministry that quizzing them every single week on trying to buy time back and like to wrap it into your identity. Like whatever your biggest vice is, your phone playstation, tiktok chasing women like whatever because it's a youth ministry boys for me. Um like five minutes equals five minutes a day equals 30 hours of your life. 

Go put that to something towards your identity or the identity, you're trying to discover if you want to be a reader, put five minutes in, you can afford five minutes. I don't care what it is. You know, you, when you say you're too busy not to carve out five minutes, you need to flip the script on that and say I'm too busy not to take these five minutes because it's, it's an investment man and, and make those investments into your identity in the, in the habits. You're trying to build that shape your identity. Um Yes, I there was a picture I probably talked about this before. There was a picture of um this was when President Bush, the second was in office of him. Uh jogging like around Washington DC. He was, he was jogging around DC. 

I mean, secret service and bicycle. We all around him. And that's when I had the first like, you're too, you're not too busy to take care of yourself. Like I wrestled with her for a decade. But dude, the president of the United States is prior prioritizing being healthy because he knows that it blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you know, the the point being like he's, he's taking the extra lap, he's secreting away the five minute whatever the case may be right to make sure he's taking care of the things that he knows needs to be taken care of and not sitting on the couch, tiktok or whatever I think that's just hilarious. Like, build on next week. Time blocking and time management. 

Oh, someone should start a prep sheet. I literally, I, I, I know I can see you typing. That's why I said it. That's why I said that. 

Um, don't log my memory like an encyclopedia. So I'm more of a goldfish status that eight seconds later. Yeah, I talk about next week. Um, we should talk about whatever you're typing down. right. There. There you go. Um all right. We've been going about 35 minutes or so. That's, that's a run time on a duo. So, anything else before we head out to next week? No. Gitmo. That's Gitmo status. Gitmo. Good enough to move on. Ok. All right. Good. Gitmo. Um All right. That will do it for this week's episode. Um If you guys have any thoughts, questions, ideas, whatever, shoot us a message, hit us up on social, you know, how to get in touch with us. And in the meantime, you'll stay out there and keep moving mountains.