E153 || Kevin and Stewart || Mountain Mover Facades

This week Kevin and Stewart sit down and talk about two really big, fun, and exciting, topics:

• What has Kevin been up to the last year?
• What is Kevin doing now and going forward?

Spoiler Alert: For Kevin, the last year has been filled with joy and thankfulness while doing deep work on himself, others, and the construction industry.  Though Kevin will keep many of the plates spinning in this new season, today's episode announces the launch of Mountain Mover Facades.

Mountain Mover Facades is a glass and glazing specialty contractor headquartered in D/FW that does procurement, fabrication, and installation of  glazing systems on commercial buildings.  But that's not what makes them special; it's what they call their PVC that makes them special (purpose, vision and core values).  This week's episode dives into defining that, introducing the talented individuals on the team, and previews the excitement for an idea that will build an army of Mountain Movers, one person at a time!

|| Show Notes ||

Mountain Mover Facades
https://mountainmoverfacades.com/
https://linktr.ee/mtn_mvrs

Mountain Mover Facade Hype Video (with Bloopers)
https://bit.ly/3F5ap7C

Lean Builder Workshop
https://bit.ly/3PJgCef 

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Transcript

Kevin: 0:00

but I believe in this so passionately that if we talk about it too much I'll probably get emotional, because I know it's at stake right, it's eternal things. It's the necessity in our market and our industry and our community to care about people and love on people and be there for them and treat them as freaking human beings and understand their troubles and the mountains in their life and help them move it.

Stewart: 0:23

Yeah, I was gonna stop you and make a joke because it would have been funny to say like and you know, if you cry I'm gonna clip it and put it at the beginning. Then I saw you get like, actually get passionate. I was like, nope, not stopping that one down. Every single individual has a story to tell, and they're great stories that need to be heard.

Kevin: 0:43

I want every listener to know they have the ability to change the world.

Stewart: 0:54

Welcome to the 17Twenty podcast.

Kevin: 0:57

What's up? Mountain movers. Welcome back to the 17Twenty podcast. Stewie's a stone cold killer for the first time in our solo history. Just nothing. He knew I was gonna say something, but I'm still saying something.

Stewart: 1:10

Right, I try this last three or 400 episodes in a row and you make a comment about what we do and I'm gonna start recording. I did nothing this time, Zero.

Kevin: 1:18

We're still calling it out, we're still talking about it. It's a bit.

Stewart: 1:22

It is a bit.

Kevin: 1:23

Every bit has a season. This one is about to run out.

Stewart: 1:27

Yeah, I think we've reached the max. Stewie leans away from the mic season, but let me see it here and there. Okay, so a couple of announcements. You wanna go or you'll meet an ounce. I can announce there's things.

Kevin: 1:37

We should talk about things. Let's talk about things.

Stewart: 1:40

Mountain Mover Manual. If you haven't heard it's on Audible, so go check that out. It's obviously Kevin's book. We've posted about it, all this et cetera. But just a reminder, go check that out and the Kevin narrates it. I do a little bit of the reflections on the side. It's posted available user credit. Go check it out. It's pretty cool man.

Kevin: 2:01

Yeah, and thanks again for adding that flare to the end. And the point of that and the drums was just to bring the 1720 vibe and some personality to it. But also snap back those people that get distracted. Because you're in your commute, you start getting in your thoughts and what's funny is I've had a few people reach out and say it helped exactly that. But then me listening back to it, I would start drifting and then go, go, go and I'm like, oh, it's reflection time. Like it worked. First handed on me, it worked.

Stewart: 2:30

So I'm glad we did it. Yeah, that was your idea. I'm glad we looped it in and kind of gave it some 1720 flare. So burn a credit, check it out, listen to it on the way to work or whatever. It's a good listen man.

Kevin: 2:40

For sure. And then this week we have Builder 2.0 Workshop. So that's a collaboration between Key on Zandy, joe Donnarumo and myself. It's combining the lean builder with mountain movers, and so the vision is really working on the whole person but then also bringing and bridging the construction industry with it. So a lot to do with construction and project specific. And then you know the stuff I'm bringing to the table, working on the person and just trying to combine the two. And we've been rehearsing it and we are fully leaned in to try and make this as impactful as possible for everybody that attends. And so if it isn't sold out by now, we can access it through Texo Association. I think we're maxed out at 50. And when we're recording it was starting to trend that way. So week of I don't know if there's still seats available, but if there's not, maybe catch us next time the can I give a.

Stewart: 3:34

you did this to me every once in a while. What we need to post as the picture for this episode is the mockup of the lean builder promo, with you with like Travis Trit hair, which is amazing, yeah, well, because.

Kevin: 3:50

I saw on the lean builder. Keon's can't put this awesome picture together. And as a joke, you know, it's Baldi, Keon with luscious locks, and then Baldi with Joe and it's like, oh cool, Like I look like I just picked a bugger with my finger in there in a keynote or something. He looks like blue steel with that like model look, and so Keon's reply was doctoring up Joe and I's hair with some luscious locks ourselves. So I'll commit to we can make it a follow up to the post, but I think for this week we probably got some other things to post that might trump it Dude.

Stewart: 4:26

Trumpet is a fun. You didn't mean actual trumpet, but it's funny.

Kevin: 4:31

Okay, so let's space there. We talked about some words that need spaces between letters.

Stewart: 4:36

Yeah, it might trump it. Yeah anyway, all right, let's get into it. Man, so big, big topic for today and it really sort of, I think, generally starts you tell me if you wanna go a different direction. But it sort of generally starts around the idea of what are you about to do for the last year Kev? But let me kick it to you and then I can add some color on top of it as we navigate through that.

Kevin: 4:59

Yeah, I mean overall, looking back, this past year has been an absolute blessing. So on the glazing sideline for a year and before that year started a lot of anxiety over that, but like belief in what could come in the future. But now, looking back at this past year and all the things that I got to do and the impact made and the purpose fulfilled, it's just awesome. I am so thankful for this year because, I mean, you name it, man. There's a list of things and feel free to interject at any time. But let me start with closeness with the Lord.

Kevin: 5:35

That's been a huge thing. Closeness with my family, more time to hang out, more time to bring my daughter to school and pick her up that construction sometimes doesn't allow more time to work with people with one-on-one coaching and really just unlock some things in them. And something that we'll probably get into a little deeper is just the deep work on self. Like we got goals, purpose, all that check, check, check, check. But like where am I broken? Where are some areas of weakness and how can I do this deep work to come out of the other side of this one year on the sidelines, a better person?

Stewart: 6:10

Yeah, there's a thousand different sayings about the seasons of life and how there's a season for everything, but it has been Like super cool to see this season for you, right, because it is all those things you just said Joy, I'll add in there right, like it is, there are definitely stresses of life and stresses of this, the, the side hustle, or the writing, the book, or strict, the, all the things. Right, they all have their own individual, unique Stresses, but it's been a season of, like Kevin's, full of joy, you know, and so that's been fun to see too, just from from my perspective, from my vantage point, while you're working on yourself and others in the industry and all these things, and so it's a great opportunity if you can frame it like that Afforded to you to like have those opportunities and moments you know sometimes people don't have when they have situations like this.

Kevin: 6:59

Yeah, hot take, just thinking about it. As you're talking about it, that season of life is almost like the mountains in our life, right, that have to be moved At this point in my life, those deepest valleys, those mountains that are in the introduction of the book. Not only am I through them, I'm thankful for them genuinely yeah, I'm happy and that's because I get it now, like I'm not holding the.

Kevin: 7:23

I didn't just get fixed and then held it to myself. You know, I'm out, I'm out there sharing with whoever needs to hear it so they can move the mountains in their life. So I am not only was I put on these sidelines, you know, equating that to this past year. I'm thankful for it. I'm thankful it allowed me to become a better human being.

Stewart: 7:42

You know, all the way around, yeah, okay, so let me let me ask some questions there, because as we walk through some of the stuff on the prep sheet, there's a few things I want to dig in on a little bit. This idea of deep work right, I, you hear that a lot, but it oftentimes comes in the context of the tasks at your work. Right, I was able to really focus on Cash projections. Man, I blocked it all out. I had a lot of deep work, I think, but that's not the deep work you're talking about, right, you're talking about personal deep work, and so talk, say more about that, just so we're all oriented in the right space and people can kind of hear what's been going on there.

Kevin: 8:16

Yeah, it's a. It was one of those challenges as I was coaching folks. I have like 11 people I was coaching, and Working on that made me work on myself more, because I'm hearing some of the struggles and some of the triumphs and all the things. It just made me look in the mirror and it's like, okay, what is an area of weakness in your life? And so I was really aimed at, like mindset when does my mind go? So the first thing was being present, and so that was the first focus. So I had just one singular thing how am I gonna be more present to help me sleep better, to help my thoughts, and I really equated it to am I watching the movie of my days or am I writing the script?

Kevin: 8:51

Yeah who's in the driver's seat there and trying to paraphrase here what I ended up finding out is not just the past and the future that I get hung up in, but fantasy land. Fantasy land meaning things that'll never happen, that are rooted in anger, like I'm gonna fight this person, I'm gonna have this fake argument. It's like why do I keep going?

Stewart: 9:09

there.

Kevin: 9:10

And so, like you have been present, that now why am I wrestling with anger? And so I had statements to come up with this when I would see them to offset it. So if I get angry, I'd say what's the big deal? If I wasn't present, I would say what's my next thought? And then it turned into Several other things that just were all built on each other and man In in a business startup mode when that grind is heavy, there's no chance I have that luxury to be working on those things. But boy, I'm better equipped now for a startup now that I've worked on it, and that's like that's a good, um, a good like knowledge method it's.

Stewart: 9:50

it's when you're in the middle of everything and this is maybe me just making an excuse for somebody or something is like when you in the middle of it all, it feels like it's difficult to stop down and have those thoughts and have those that, because that's, those ideas seem ethereal or sort of like Metaphysically down the road. So I'm like I don't know how figure that out, but right now I'm just gonna be mad and I'm gonna move on. You know what I mean.

Stewart: 10:16

Yeah as opposed to having the margin to to like think the thoughts that you forced yourself to have. I was like what's the big deal? Like, why am I mad at this? I stopped being that. That's sort of like fixing it.

Stewart: 10:27

It, which takes me back to another thing we talk about all the time, which is if you're always being reactive, like you're never gonna fix the problem, you're going to have to find margin. Even if you're not afforded the opportunity to have long periods of deep work, you're gonna have to find the margin to lean in. Even if they're like little Micro deep work, I'm not gonna make any sense at all. You know I'm saying like just Taking ground slowly but surely on some of these things. And you know, honestly, like you know, I'm all in or all out. So oftentimes I'm like how to do it later? But you've got to find no, no, no, no, no. I'm not gonna let that continue to root. Tomorrow it'll just be a little bit less. Tomorrow It'll be just a little bit less. So two things one is, you know that work is necessary, but two, the other thing is, if you're not afforded the time luxury or the time opportunity, make little tiny steps forward over along these ideas that that need your deep thoughts to fix.

Kevin: 11:23

Yeah, and don't get a twist that it's more work before it's less, right you? Yeah because you're still doing all those things and you're adding deep work or and you're you're working through that self-reflection, you're trying to discipline your mind, you're trying to make pre decisions. Over time, hopefully you look back and say, oh wow, it worked. You're gonna have that light bulb moment. But that takes some work. It takes some work and some consistency and some discipline, but I'm not. It's not easy street.

Stewart: 11:50

You got to work hard at it, yeah Well, so in the last you know year there's been a lot of plates up and spinning right like we kind of walked through all of those. I'm assuming you're writing another book. We talked about that this morning.

Kevin: 12:03

Absolutely not. Mark it whatever time. This is right now. Mark Nope Time's up that.

Stewart: 12:08

Well, when you write it again, it'll be funny that you said he weren't but um the so, but as you take, we will get to in a second. But as you, as you lean into, like this next season for Kevin, what of those plates keep spinning? Right, because it just seems implausible that all of them can keep going. It's too much. But so look before, as we, before we get to, what's next? What keeps spinning like what? What's still gonna stay in the, the plates of Kevin's life?

Kevin: 12:33

Yeah, I kind of had a wish list of all the things I wanted to accomplish in this year on the sidelines and and what's funny is One was right up against the wall with the audible version of the book. But this book was a huge part of that, and getting the book out, publishing it, getting the paperback, getting the Kindle, getting the audible and just out in the atmosphere, and so that's something that can now that it's done. It's just Marketing, you know, just keeping that plate on the stick.

Kevin: 13:02

Um, coaching is gonna completely fall off because, as we're about to talk about in a minute, it's gonna be direct coaching, it's gonna be leading leading teams. Yeah, keynotes and workshops as they come up, you know, and and they fit in a calendar and they make sense for the purpose and they make sense for the industry, I'll entertain them. So it's really been a launch pad of just getting that going, feeding the purpose, getting the getting the purpose out there of the mountain mover brand and the movement and everything and and we'll see where it goes. But definitely coaching has fallen off from that and probably very selective on workshops.

Stewart: 13:38

Okay, so you, you gave me the perfect for a into the idea of what's next, because you said the coaching becomes more direct. Um and so, in the grand LeBron James fashion, what's next? Where are you taking your talents, kevin Carey, do you remember that bit with LeBron taking with Telsa South Beach?

Kevin: 13:56

I do. Yeah, Now we're going to get all those LeBron James gifts from the crowd and the listeners and all that. But, man, I'm honored to talk about Mountain Mover Facades Huge shocker, that's the name of the company and it is a glass and glazing company. So I'm going back to my love. I'm going back to something that I know and that I've been in for a long time, but why I'm going into it is much more different and much more special than what I do. What I do, it's just that happens to be the silo of talent that I have Right, but now I see it as the vehicle to impact and I couldn't be more excited about the opportunity and I'll tell you I was wrestling with if I would ever do that again and for another discussion at another time, it was one of those. It's just the vehicle and it's the quickest vehicle we have to achieve a purpose that's absolutely needed in construction and in our community.

Stewart: 14:51

Yeah, I mean not to diminish the trade, because it is complicated and it is tricky and it is your special talent, but it's just the widget. It's just the methods, the mean to the means, and so not to not to devalue it, because it is tricky, complicated, highly technical labor and all of the things, but it's just a widget to make impact across our industry and in all those people's lives. And so, yeah, we've said that 100 times, it just comes back to fruition here as you launch Mountain Move Facades.

Kevin: 15:21

Yeah, and I'll. I'll lean into that just for a second before we go into some of the meat of the company. But it is a glass and glazing company Headquartered and Dalles, fort Worth. We're gonna have a manufacturing facility here in DFW doing all the things for commercial buildings. But man, we're we're chasing relationships and we're chasing relationships that we can trust, and we're chasing what we call the PVC. And so the PVC for us is our purpose, our vision and core values, and that's the drum that we're beating every single day. And you can really think about from a manual standpoint. Like the Mountain Mover manual is going to be our manual, and so it will be the catalog of 1720, like all the things that we're talking about and writing about. We're about to walk the talk collectively over at Mountain Mover Facades.

Stewart: 16:08

Right, you're gonna have you've said this forever but a large catalog of accountability of all the things that we're, we want, we want for the industry we're striving to reach. We're working on ourselves like there it is, man, it's all out there, and when it all comes to fruition, I mean this is this, is it?

Kevin: 16:26

Yeah, and it could have been easy to stay in my season of comfort, but I think God has bigger plants and I think I have to be more boots on the ground in order to make a direct impact and force multiply that impact, because I have glimpses of it. I have glimpses of light in the dark, with people going through struggles and then finding out that we care about them and and changing people for the better and unlocking their weirdness and those awesome stories that are in the book. Like it's time to magnify those. And you know how big I am on walking the talk, like I love all the coaching and stuff, but there's nothing better than sword on the battlefield with your, with your teammates nothing better.

Stewart: 17:07

You know it's over this year. We've talked about that in and out. Right, do you miss the, do you miss the battlefield? And I think I think the answer maybe you correct me if I'm wrong I feel like the answer at first was like a little muted, but it wasn't. Maybe two months in you were like I miss this, you know, I mean it was it's. It's definitely, among other things, that are in your DNA, the battlefield's in your DNA, man. So I love it.

Kevin: 17:32

I love every part about it. But you know now, looking back again, that deep work is just going to make me and hopefully the purpose that much bigger and that much stronger to get ready for this next phase, because we did a lot right in the past. But you know we also got some things wrong that we're going to hopefully correct and and be better on. And you know it all ties back to the PVC now and that's that's our, even though we're not a plumbing contractor. You'll see back there I got a little PVC pipe to just remember. It's going to be in the forefront of everybody's brain. Homepage of the website.

Stewart: 18:07

It's going to be everywhere, man, everywhere. Yeah, the I got a lot of questions. Let's see, let's, let's go with who? Right, like, as you said, among other things, your coaching turns more direct, right, and it's a group of folks that are coming along for this ride that you know. I will, I'll just shut up and let you, let you pitch the team, man, because it's a group of rock stars who are headed on this journey with you. Give them a, give them a prop up here, man.

Kevin: 18:33

Yeah, it's. It's an absolute honor and privilege to know these guys and and know their hearts and know they're bought into the PVC from day one, because that takes years of finding and discovery. You know, you think you found the right person and then after a couple years you're like, oh man, they're, they're only looking out for themselves, you know all that sort of stuff.

Kevin: 18:54

But I've seen the the beauty of this team bonded together, caring about a common cause Again, not just focused on the scoreboard or the widget, but something bigger and standing for something bigger. So I already know that buy in. And so, day one, you got Dylan Turner, who's going to be vice president of pre construction. You got Roger Cantrell that's going to be general manager over the shopping field. You have Jeff Kramer that's going to be a VP of operations, so he's going to oversee everything. Post contract handoff from Dylan. And then you got Simon tool, who's going to be a senior estimator in the precon department.

Kevin: 19:29

And it's fun, man, we, we got together to shoot a little hype video that you haven't had a chance to see yet, but in the moment the five of us were in the room together it just picked up right where we left off of just super, super weird and just fun and laughing and just all the things.

Stewart: 19:50

I thought you were going to say super, super fun, which you'd came to it, but you led with weird, which caught like real, real laughter Cause. I would say that wasn't expecting super, super weird. But as you were going through the list there with those guys who are super guys, by the way I was thinking I think I have a GIF, or GIF or however you say it of all of them doing crazy things maybe not Simon, but like photos or some crazy something from these guys of different times and bumping into them or stuff like this. And so, yeah, well, maybe weird was the right way to lead out.

Kevin: 20:26

So so for that video shoot day I was having a meeting with somebody and that somebody's probably listening, and then all of a sudden we heard like a bunch of different car horns beeping and that person goes what the heck's going on out there? And I'm like my people have arrived. Like I didn't even I didn't even need to look out the window.

Stewart: 20:46

Oh man, yeah, they just show up and start honking their horns and yeah, yeah, they didn't even.

Kevin: 20:51

They don't need me to activate their weirdness. They're they're already activated you know and and I want to make sure we do the PVC justice, because we're talking about the C portion- but you got to have all three of them together, right?

Kevin: 21:03

So the P is the purpose and it's it's the son of the solar system, right, you know from the book. And it's building an army of mount movers, one person at a time, and that's the endless right. The ING and building means we're always after that next person. You're never there with that purpose. We're always striving to be better and reach the next person, because you don't know how much that person needed it or who else that person is going to impact. And so the purpose is huge. Our vision is to use facades as the vehicle to radically impact the lives of the people in our company, industry and community. And we take that serious and and that's that's a huge part of our daily walk, and it'll be a huge part of our meetings and a huge part of our hiring process, and we'll turn back and look back at it and make corrections from it and improve from it, and so that vision is going to be central to all things.

Stewart: 21:54

Let me stop down there, because there's two things you said, one of which I've never heard before. But you said building the ING makes it endless, like you're always moving forward. When you said, I knew exactly what you meant and all the times we've talked about this like that term of phrase I'd never heard you use. But that's awesome, right, like the ING makes it endless is awesome. And the other thing I want to ask is like if you guys thought through or if you put together any sorts of KPIs around tracking how you're doing these things, or is that still WIP?

Kevin: 22:23

Great question. It's yeah, that's work in progress because we're just getting started. Yeah, yeah, yeah which is a funny thing tied to the purpose too. Let's pin that for a second. But yeah, all this is going to be created. But you better believe when it comes to scoreboard. So you know, if we're talking points, we're talking financials, right, and people's compensation. They're tied to the PVC Absolutely. Every single position for the company number one role to be a positive contributor to the PVC, like it's going to be, it'll be a huge part, you know, and we don't. I don't reach for the stars like bonuses, aren't these? 20 light switches, all that sort of stuff? It'll essentially be do your job and adhere and advance the PVC Like it's going to be very cut and dry, but the PVC is going to be non-negotiable.

Stewart: 23:12

Yeah Well, and there's a million different ways to do these. But at the end of the day, you know, if you turn back to these things, you can pretty quickly analyze like how's that person doing his weight or measured against this standard? I don't need 20 switches to figure that out, like we will. We can all sit in the room and say, hey, you're doing a great job.

Kevin: 23:29

That's right.

Stewart: 23:29

I know off the top of my head because we are constantly communicating and constantly accountable around this issue. I know what you did this year around these things and pushing these things forward. I remember that time when so and so did, section to section, you, you stut, you, whatever. Like you, you'll remember them because these aren't like KPIs around how many emails you sent, right, I don't know that, because it's not important. These are gonna be KPIs. I'm using KPI in a multifaceted sense. They're one of which doesn't make any sense, but like they're real, tangible, memorable, radically life-changing moments that are measured against this. It's not that hard to remember.

Kevin: 24:05

Yeah, and if we're focused on these things, the byproduct are the points on the board. So I'm not saying financials aren't important. They're super important. They're just not the sun of the solar system. They're not everything. It's a planet, it has its place and we will go get what's ours if we focus on what's right. And focus on what's right not for that outcome, but for the purpose. If you're tracking me Like, our heart needs to be into this. Not, this is just a ploy in order to get money.

Kevin: 24:33

No the currency is impact and financial gain is the byproduct.

Stewart: 24:39

Man, if you're listening, like, stop for just a second and think that through, because 99 times out of 100, that sentence goes the other way. We need to make money so that we can impact people's lives.

Kevin: 24:52

Yeah.

Stewart: 24:53

Right, and that's the value proposition you just put out. There is it's the inverted proposition. It is we're going to impact people's lives and because we're doing that, we're going to make some money which we can then use to impact people's lives, like it's not the other way around and it's a different way to do business. It is definitely a different way to do business.

Kevin: 25:16

This is why we're standing here and I don't want to look in the rear view mirror, I want to look forward on this, but I believe in this so passionately that if we talk about it too much I'll probably get emotional, because I know it's at stake, right, it's eternal things. It's the necessity in our market and our industry and our community to care about people and love on people and be there for them and treat them as freaking human beings and understand their troubles and the mountains in their life and help them move. It Like this is it glazings the vehicle.

Stewart: 25:49

Yeah, I was going to stop you and make a joke because it would have been funny to say like and you know, if you cry I'm going to clip it and put it at the beginning. Then I saw you get like, actually get passionate. I was like, nope, not stopping that one down. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's something Bradley said last week when I was listening back was the idea about, like, walking past people and not saying hello, how many times, like no, that's not acceptable, that is not acceptable and just changing. Anyway, we're kind of harping on the same thing and I was saying I'm adding nothing except rephrasing it. But yes, yes, sign me up for that, man Sign me up for that.

Stewart: 26:24

Let's do that, you know.

Kevin: 26:26

Yeah, and like I guess a way to KPI that like cause those are grand right your purpose is grand. Yeah, and it's hard to measure that without some things right. And vision that's kind of like that's our identity, but our core values are almost like KPIs to that. Are we adhering to these five things? So the core values?

Stewart: 26:48

are DNA. Oh, let me guess. Let me guess. One of them is B weird.

Kevin: 26:51

You better believe it Nailed it, yeah, and that just proves. And you're not serving up questions Like you haven't seen the hype video because it's not live yet. Yeah, but the talking about that, and Simon slotted to do the B weird core values because he's the perfect person for it. And so before I go on to what that one means, like core values, just like scripture in the Bible, you can't just single one out and that be the end all be off. That makes sense.

Kevin: 27:23

Oh yeah, we can't just we can't be a bunch of weirdos that get nothing done, because then it's gonna be a failure, right? So this is one of the core values. It's a very important one, but all five of them are important. So B weird is one non-negotiable effort, relentlessly consistent on wavering faith and completely devoted. Now, if you package those five together, we're living out the purpose and the vision. You know what I mean. So, like that's gonna be the evaluation from day in, day out, looking at those core values in the mirror. Like am I being my unique self? Am I giving my best effort? Is this effort and living out the purpose and vision consistent? Am I believing in things that I may not be able to see today?

Stewart: 28:06

with faith.

Kevin: 28:07

Because faith isn't just by definition. That's the definition of it. We have a godly perspective to it, but it's faith in each other, faith in the vision, faith in the purpose, faith in the divisions, faith in the community, like all of the things. And then completely devoted that's our one devoted to safety, we're completely devoted to getting our people home the same way they came every day, or better right, like that's the basement.

Stewart: 28:31

Man, safety sometimes takes a back seat. Safety sometimes isn't at the table, but safety is one of your five here, being completely devoted to sending those people home safely every day. Massive, massive People don't really appreciate that we think we talked about this with Joe the other day how complicated what you specifically this trade is doing, how dangerous it is and how, if you're not completely devoted to getting those guys minimum home safely every day, I think it's not you're not doing it right, because at the end of the day it's just a job. They have a family and they're trying to care for them and all the things. So kudos to you to dropping that one in there, man, because it's huge.

Kevin: 29:10

You know team effort right. What was important for me was the five of us collectively looking at this and like what's important and let's come up with these. You know I wanted this to be a group thing and so that was a collective deal. Like certain, people are more passionate about some than others and you're not going to score an A plus on the report card every single quarter, right For all five of these.

Kevin: 29:32

But, we just need to make sure all five of them are at the forefront, and it's just like any other habit with some consistency, effort and discipline, they will become second nature. That's, that's absolute fact. They need to become second nature for anybody that we're serving, anybody that's working here or going to work here, and so these are the closest things that we have to KPIs today, because if we're interviewing you, best believe we're going to tell you exactly who we are and exactly how important this is, because if it rubs you the wrong way, we don't want you to join the team, because let's save each other some time. Like, if you don't want to be your true self or put in consistent effort, you want to kick your feet up every day and just get ready for it. If you just have fun, this probably isn't a place for you. If you want to have fun and work hard doing it and be there for each other and believe in something bigger than yourself, this is the place for you. Yeah.

Stewart: 30:21

Are you taking applications for lawyers?

Kevin: 30:25

If I grew that big, that fast? Yeah, yeah, just you. Yeah, I definitely slow down.

Stewart: 30:30

Yeah, the point is, man, like, you're going to paint a vision for people who are like how do I leave where I am to come do this? So get your HR team ready, because this is not not your usual operation of like how it's all going to go down. It's going to be amazing, man, thank you.

Kevin: 30:47

And the funny thing is in startup mode, you're like okay, I'll just shift my hat five degrees. What position do you need now? Janitor got it.

Stewart: 30:54

Oh, you're looking for HR.

Kevin: 30:55

Yeah, he's here I just spin my chair once.

Stewart: 30:59

You should get oh man, you should get like five or six different hats. I had the bill on all four sides. That's funny too. I was just thinking, well, but that's all the same hat.

Kevin: 31:10

We could have different departments.

Stewart: 31:11

The euphemism, not euphemism the way people I'm wearing. You're wearing different hats, right, so you have to have like, oh, you're looking, and then have like an HR hat that you put on. I'm getting you those, I'm getting these for you. This is a great idea. I may actually cut this out. I don't want people stealing it. Don't steal my ideas.

Kevin: 31:26

It's copyrighted right. I'm a lawyer.

Stewart: 31:27

I'm a lawyer, copyrighted. Don't steal it.

Kevin: 31:29

Hey, since we're in the ditch, my surgeon he got a call and he's like this might be an emergency.

Kevin: 31:34

I have to take it. While I was in the post op room with him and they hung up on him on speaker and he said did you see that If you for now on for a no call or ID call, say Dr Kerry, they're not going to mess with you? If it's any Robocalls, they will not try to pitch you, just slap doctor to the front of your name? I'm like yeah, because if I said construction man, kevin, they're like we got. We got a live one Hold department. Get on the phone.

Stewart: 31:56

Everybody's chilling around here. Okay, well, now we all know how to get off of those lists. You're all doctors.

Kevin: 32:01

Welcome. You're all ordained as doctors.

Stewart: 32:04

Yes, yes, well, for the limited purposes of getting off of Robocalls. I don't want to get this too far in the ditch. Yeah right, too late, too late, too late, all right. So what else do we need to hit here, man? I know there's a lot of things moving, a lot of parts moving. What's what else do we need to hit around? Mountain move for sides.

Kevin: 32:26

Just the website. I guess mountain mover facadescom, that'll be the host of a lot of the things that we're talking about. Or is the host and just excited for the journey and I know like that. That found that sounds pretty cliche, but boy do I mean it. Let's just talk about today, for example, and you already know what happened today. Yeah, but major, major God moment. And because this, there's nothing guaranteed in a startup whatsoever. It doesn't matter how amazing the team is, it doesn't matter how amazing the PVC is Like, it doesn't matter, nothing's guaranteed. And there are things outside of our control and conditions, like the market and you name it.

Kevin: 33:08

But the day of this recording, when things are getting very serious, you know I'm on the elliptical warming up for the day, as usual, and I have my Bible app and it's a devotional and and and I open the devotional before I read the chapter, and so I'm reading the this is the Bible for dummies that I love, that part in these Bible plans, and so I'm reading in layman's terms and now the sun mustard seed gets, gets named, and it's kind of like the war drums in the book, in the audio book. I'm like wait a minute. I snapped like closer attention. I'm like don't tell me they're talking about Matthew 70 20. I just got the chills just thinking that click. The next in the chapter for the day was Matthew 17.

Stewart: 33:49

Yeah, and I was gotta be kidding me this, yeah. So this morning when you texted me, I wasn't awake, that's okay. My phone vibrated and I reached over because I was like twilight awake, right. I reached over and grabbed it, pulled it over and the message says of course, this is today's reading right now, click on it. I'm like just like waking up like, and I was like, oh, am I in, sir? I think it is get out of here.

Kevin: 34:16

Are you serious? You tight, you teed this up, didn't you?

Stewart: 34:19

Yeah, 100%, and that's a man. If you're looking for a God moment, that might be one Just crazy man, a dude in my life group.

Kevin: 34:32

He likes to refer to it as like man. When I'm in obedience, I just feel God winking at me and so like I'm going to start stealing that from my buddy, sean. Like I think that's just him winking at me saying you're right where you're supposed to be today. Like, yeah, not even an at a boy, but just like, have comfort in the fact that you're where you're supposed to be and you're, you're living the purpose out that I've called you to do, and that's pretty cool, that's pretty cool to have that because, man, it's going to be a roller coaster.

Stewart: 35:02

Yeah Well, and it's good to have it, it's not cool, it's more than cool. It's way more than pretty cool. That's like it's way more than pretty cool. It's an amazing moment to have for today and it's also going to be an amazing moment to reflect on when that roller what's the worst part going, I guess going down, I don't know whatever the crappiest part to get a good stock on the click, click, click, click, click, click and you're looking down. Yeah, when you're upside down on a loop you're going to remember today and be, like Nope, I remember this.

Stewart: 35:31

This is okay. This is part of the ride, man.

Kevin: 35:33

Well, and the beauty of this friendship and this podcast is maybe I don't remember, but you will- you know and you'll be able to when I'm going through, it be like hey, bro, remember this day text yeah, remember this text.

Stewart: 35:47

Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Kevin: 35:50

Man, I'm excited. You thought it was going to be easy.

Stewart: 35:52

Yeah, right, hey, why don't you go back and listen to episode 150, whatever at 32 minutes and remember that?

Kevin: 35:59

Yeah, I'm laughing because it's absolutely going to happen, 100%, 100%.

Stewart: 36:06

Man, I'm super excited for you guys. I it's, I don't. I'm super excited for you guys. It's going to be an amazing journey, a super fun ride with the dudes that are just solid and you guys are going to have a blast doing it. So I'm excited about reflecting on this in a year and seeing where you are and thinking back through all the impact that you guys have had and all the challenges and sharing some of those ideas you know, through the process of all of them. It's going to be a fun ride for for me as your buddy, for listeners to kind of hear as it's processing, and for all the people and lives and families and communities you guys impact along the way. It's just going to be. It's going to be some special. I'm looking forward to just being on the sideline and watching it. Man, appreciate it, brother. It's going to be awesome, man, all right. Well, that's it for today, unless you got some other great announcements. You got any other big announcements? No?

Kevin: 36:55

Fresh out.

Stewart: 36:55

That's what I got All right man, we'll catch up with you guys next week and until then you'll stay out there and keep moving mountains.